The Liss Family History

 

                                                           Created by:

                                                                                  George Liss  

                                                                                  19532 Bay View Road

                                                                                   Boca Raton, Florida 33434

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Dear Liss Family: 

If while reading the family history you come across an error,

please e-mail me at the above address.  It is with your help

that we will be able to maintain an accurate record for future

 generations. 

 

 

The Liss Family, as we know of it, traces its’ origins to the marriage of Hinda Dobrisch and Dov Baer Liss in Russia.

 

Hinda was born in l853 in Kaminets, Russia to Gittel and Eliezar Leepha Dobrisch. Her family was economically well off. Gittel’s maiden name was Axelrod, and they were engineers for the Czar.  Hinda had a least one brother, Phivel, whose last known residence was Nicholiyev. Hinda’s mother still lived in a small village and a short distance from Nicholiyev for Jennie Klein recalled going by wagon to visit prior to leaving for America.

 

Dov Baer, also called Beryl and Benjamin David, was the son of Jacob and Scheindel Liss. He was born in l849 in Russia. According to Max Liss (Sam’s son) there was a younger brother whose name we do not know. Apparently the two brothers had a dispute over property owned by their father) probably a house)----the younger brother prevailed with a great deal of animosity (perhaps this is why no one can recall discussions regarding cousins, uncles, etc.

 

The family name is not a shortened surname. This would go back to around l820. In Russia, our family members had Hebrew and Yiddish names just as we have English and Hebrew names. Dov Baer is repetitious in that Dov is a Hebrew name (“Bear”) Beryl is used as we would say “Bennie” for “Benjamin.” Sometimes the names were used together—Dov Baer. We have been told that this was so the name Dov would not be confused as diminutive for David. A woman usually had a Yiddish name only, Hinda, Gittle, etc. Since they were not called to the torah, etc., there was no need for a Hebrew name. Our family members adopted English names----Max, Jennie—when they arrived in the U. S.

 

The family lived in Nicholiyev, which is located near Odessa in the Ukraine (per my father.) The city is also called Mikoliyev in Yiddish and Ukrainian.  Dove worked for the postal service (per Lou Liss). The family was in the pre-leather business preparing hides prior to becoming leather. In the movie”Shoah”, this was the Jewish occupation in one of the small Polish villages depicted. Hinda said previous generations had been in the fur trade and even traded in China.

 

My father related that the family home had dirt floors, and the family cow was brought in doors in the winter. As a child, he would walk several blocks to the city well to draw water, and in the winter the temperature would be twenty below causing the water to freeze before he reached home so the water would be thawed over a fire. He went to “cheda” from early morning until evening, and at night came home with lanterns in a wagon or sleigh. When Sam Liss married, according to his son max, an extra room was built on to the family home for Sam and “Chaika”,Max thought Hinda had a grocery in Russia.

 

There were eight children: “Sura” (Sarah), Yehoshuah (Sam), “Yaakov” (Jacob), “Revka (Rebecca), “Nucham-“Nossan (Nathan), “Morechai” (“Mottel”),Max  “Yosedh Yitzchak, ((Joseph Issac) and “Scheindel” Jenny.

 

The family members migrated to the U.S. individually, and not as a family entity. It would appear they traveled across Europe via Poland to various western points. They were probably part of the illegal immigration.

 

“Sura” married Zalmon Manelis in Russia around l893. Two children were born in Russia in l896,”Elieza Leeph (Louis Manelis) and “Scheindel” in l897. Zalman migrated to the U. S. in l903 and had planned to go to New Bedford, Mass. where friends of his parents lived. While enroute acquaintances changed his plans and he went to Whitman, Mass. He moved to New Bedford in l905. Zalman was born in Kiev, and later sent money to his brothers in law for their passage. These sums were repaid when they started working in the U. S. (per Bea Manelis Kaplan.)

 

Nathan was the first sibling to arrive in the U.S. He left Liverpool, England on the Cunard Line Ship “Ivernia” on January 5, l904. His age was recorded as l8 years, his occupation listed as a tailor, and his funds were five dollars. The records say he was to meet his brother-in-law, S. Adler c/o Pittiner at l59 Orchard St., New York. To be admitted, you had to have someone in the U. S. so this name may have been an arranged necessity, and not really a relative.

 

Jacob arrived in Philadelphia on June 27, l904. He had left Liverpool, England where he had lived for “one year”, on June l5, l904. He was 22 years old. His ship was the Dutch American line Westernland.  He arrived with a passenger listed as Lev (record not clear) Liss whose age was 27 years. They were both enroute to New York to meet S. Adler who was listed the brother-in-law of the other Liss passenger. Since both Nathan and Jacob came via Liverpool, it would be interesting to speculate that they left Russia together in May l903.  Since both were enroute  to see S. Adler, this could be a fictitious name, or a relative through a branch of the Liss Family (Lev Liss)

 

Sam arrived in l904 ( I have not yet found his boat papers) He had been in the Russian Army and had left at the start of the Russo-Japanese war.  His wife, “Chaika and his sons, Isaac and Max arrive later in l907. Sam managed a bakery in New York. Max, age l8, arrived in New York on April 22, l905 on the S.S. Pennsylvania. He had five dollars in his possession, and listed occupation was a tailor. He was enroute to meet his brother “Nachumka” of 42 Bleecher St., New York. He knew no English, but could read and write.

 

My father told me how the brothers would go into bars to eat lunch for by purchasing a beer for five cents you could partake of a buffet at no charge.

 

In the end of l906 and winter l907, Nathan and Max went to Chicago by train. They purchased a wagon, and worked as peddlers in Minnesota and the Dakotas. Max related to me how they stayed on various farms (no hotels) and the large amount of snow they encountered.

 

“Sura” Manelis arrived in New York on November 22, l906 aboard the S.S. Astoria of the Anchor Line. She had left Glasgow on November l0, l906. She was 33 years old and brought her two children, “Leisear” Louis age 9 and “Scheinder” age 7. She was 5 feet 2 and a half inches tall with black hair. She was enroute to meet her husband “Zalman” of 37l South Water St. in New Bedford, Mass. She and the children were detained while a telegram was sent to “Zalman” for money. “Sura”, the oldest sibling was listed as born in Nikoliyev.

 

Josef Lis (so listed on manifest) arrived with his sister “Sura” He was 4 feet l0 and a half inches tall with brown hair and his occupation was a laborer. He was enroute to meet his brother, N. Liss, c/o Gatherfeld at 72 Bleecher St. His age was l6 years and he, too was born in Nikoliyev.

 

Dov Baer arrived in l909 at the age of 60. He worked in the U. S. as a rag assorted. He died on August 20 l9l4 of gastric carcinoma. He is buried in Mount Zion Cemetery in Mespath, N. Y. (part of Queens) in the section of Congregation Anshe Sfard Poland. We know he was religious, and attended services daily.

 

Hinda arrived in New York on July 3, l9l3 aboard the S.S. Potsdam having left Rotterdam, Holland on June 22. She was 59 years old, and was to meet her husband at 635 E. 6th St. in New York. She was accompanied by her daughter, “Scheindel” Jenny, age l7. Another passenger was listed as her daughter, “Sura”, age l9. This was not actually her daughter.

 

“Yankel” Jack Feld, age 32 had arrived on March 8, l9l0, aboard the Red StarLine, ship Vaderland. He had embarked by himself from Antwerp on February 26, l9l0, and was enroute to New Bedford, Mass.

 

“Rivke Feld, age 25, arrived in New York on November 11, l9l2. She and her son, “Herschel” Feld had left Rotterdam on November 2, l9l2, on the S. S. Ryndam. Her last residence was listed as Hildshin or Kildshin, Russia and her relative there was her father-in-law Itzak Feld. She, too, had been born in Nikoliyev. She was 5 feet 4 inches and was enroute to meet her husband l30 or l70 Acushnet Ave., New Bedford, Mass.

 

The family had opened a grocery store on Avenue B. in New York. The boys worked as, and learned to be furriers.

 

 

The Liss Family migrated to New Bedford, Mass. In l9l3 or l9l4 and the behest of Zalman Manelis who recommended it as a good area for “peddling sheets.” The pattern of movement to New Bedford is not known since Dov Beryl died in August l9l4 in New York after a six month illness, and Lou Liss recalls going from New Bedford to New York to visit his ailing grandfather.  Incidentally, Dov had a red beard Lou recalls (also attested to by Isaac Liss, per his daughter Renee.)

 

Jake, Nathan, and Max all married in New York and had children born there while Joseph and Jenny married in New Bedford. An interesting aside—Joseph and Isaac Liss both served in the army in World War l (Isaac under an alias of Robert P. Gore.)  After discharge, Isaac brought a soldier friend home to New Bedford—this soldier, Morris Klein, became the husband of Jenny Liss Klein.

 

The family lived initially at 25 Crapo St.  Hinda moved from New York and lived with her daughter, Jenny.  Hinda has been described as a well-educated woman (unusual for her time.)  She died of pneumonia on October 7, l936.  She had caught a cold while walking to synagogue on Yom Kippur and died on Hoshanah Rabah, the last day of Succos.  She was able to “Daven” like a man, again, unusual for her time and a reflection of her “Aristocratic” background. Her high holiday Mahzor remains in the care of Lou Liss.

 

A weekly ritual was for the entire family to gather together on Sundays to visit with their mother----all children included, a ritual repeated in my father’s home during his lifetime.

 

The family members worked initially as peddlers, however, they each eventually established businesses.  Nathan had a fur business, Max, a men’s haberdashery, and Joseph, a women’s clothing store.  Jacob was the entrepreneur of the family.  He built the first hotel in Hyannis, Mass. And several large buildings in New Bedford itself—one of these building was recently sold and a newspaper article mentioned him as the original builder.  He was in the coal business, also, in Fall River, Mass.

 

Tragedy struck the family in l922 when both Nathan and Max suffered the loss of their wives at very young ages.  They both remarried, (see family tree.)

 

The next significant family migration occurred around l924 when Sam’s son Max moved to New York to enter the laundry business.  Sam and his son, Isaac followed soon after to join him in business.  They lived in the Bronx.

 

In the early l930’s, Jacob sold his business in Fall River, Mass.  Since his son Barnet was also free, Jacob decided to take a trip with the possible intent of starting a business in Philadelphia, where, apparently there were some relatives.  Sophie Liss (Max’s wife suggested he might want to visit Washington, D. C.  Since she had family there he knew and could say with, Jake visited there, saw business opportunities and decided to move. He and his children opened a furniture business there.

 

Memorial Day weekend, l936, Ben Liss (son of Max) visited his cousin Barnet in Washington. Ben moved there permanently later that year and started a door-to-door credit business.  The following year, his brother Abe was recruited to join him.  His father and sister Gertrude then followed and in l939 the entire Max Liss family was moved to Wasington, D.C. 

 

This is not the end of the family history since many years have passed since I first compiled this story.  Many other events have occurred which are beyond the scope of my knowledge, and time constraints for further research.  I hope this will serve as a basis for you to continue your own histories. 

 

I would appreciate your writing me any additional information you might wish to add.

 

Speculations:

 

l.                Dov Baer’s mother’s name was Scheinder.  Hinda and Dov named

m.            their   last child Scheinder (Jenny B.l896) and Sura gave her daughter the same name (Scheinder B. l896.)  She probably died l89l—l895 since Joseph (Yoseph Yitzchak) was not named for her in l892.

 

2.         Eliezar Leephia Dobrisch died between l89l—l895.  Joseph was not             .           named for him (l892) while Lou Manelis was l895

 

3.        Yaakou Liss (father Dov Baer) died l875—l88l---Sam (l824 was named for someone else (paternal or maternal grandparent?)

                    while second son Jacob was (B.l882.)

 

4.       Gittezl Axelrod Dobrisch died l9l2—l9l9.  Hinda and Jenny visited her                 prior to leaving Russia in l9l2.  Gertrude Liss was named  for her.       Recently found data places it l4 of Tammuz in l9l5.